Interviewer: "[HEB] Radiohead are already in Israel and they are already here! [ENG] Hello Radiohead!
Radiohead: "Hello, Hello...
Interviewer: "[HEB] Did you hear that??
[edit, a song by Mashina is played]
Interviewer: "[HEB]The new Mashina (an Israeli band)...[ENG] Pleased to meet you. Hope you know my name... Hello again Radiohead! Pleased to meet you!"
Thom: "Hello again."
Ed: "Hi."
Interviewer: "When did you come to Israel?"
Colin: "Err..."
Ed: "This morning!"
Jonny: "Eight hours ago."
Interviewer: "And you are in a hotel? Good place?"
Thom: "Yeah, it's nice. We turned up at five thirty, fell asleep and got up again."
Interviewer: "OK. Err, this won't be an interview, but we'll talk about music and about songs you chose to play on my show, after I played your songs for about three or four months."
Colin: "Thank you very much!"
Ed. "Thank you!"
Interviewer: "You're welcome, you're welcome."
Ed: "(Laughing) What can we say?"
Interviewer: "Leave the check you know... And erm... I want to give the listeners who knows English better than me to have a chance to talk with you, so I'll give a phone number and if Ziv Tal, my friend, will choose a few listeners to talk with you and we'll give them also a ticket for the Roxanne concert."
Thom: "You never know, someone might call! (laughs)"
Interviewer: "Yes... some creeps might call."
Thom: "Yeah! (laughs)"
Interviewer: "[HEB] Ok so the number is... and if you didn't get me there's no point of you calling because it means you don't know English HEHEHE... [ENG] And now we'll go to the first songs, I think it's also a world premiere, no?"
Thom: "Yeah."
Ed: "Hmm-hmm."
Thom: "No one's ever ever heard the recording of it ever."
Interviewer: "So maybe tell us about it, a few words..."
Thom: "Uh, it's the first one that we've recorded ourselves with our live engineer rather than using expensive producers. Um, and..."
Interviewer: "It's gonna be the next single, yes?"
Thom: "Yep. And err, umm, we think it's ace. And it's about the death of pop music."
Interviewer: "We'll talk about it after we hear it..."
Thom: "(laughs) Ok."
Interviewer: "I once played it in an acoustic version, demo I think."
Ed: "Hmm."
Interviewer: "But now it's full recording."
Thom: "Yeah."
Interviewer: "Pop Is Dead! [HEB] Pop is dead, almost a world premiere, it was never released, Radiohead."
['Pop Is Dead' is played]
Interviewer: "That's it?"
Ed: "(laughing) Yes, sure."
Colin: "Short and sweet."
Interviewer: "Let's talk about the meaning of the song 'Pop Is Dead'. I know that... Thom, I talked with you on the phone before a few weeks."
Thom: "Mmmh."
Interviewer: "And umm, I had the feeling that you think that the situation of pop music today is very bad."
Thom: "Uh yeah, yeah. It..."
Interviewer: "So maybe... all the band will talk about this point for a few seconds..."
Thom: "Someone else start off, 'cause I'm always the one ranting on it..."
Interviewer: "Ok."
Colin: "Well, I used to work in a record shop in England and err... and like... you'd release The Doors' Greatest Hits album with depressing regularity and err... we just can't sell too many copies of it and..."
Interviewer: "Oh, I've got it here!"
(Everybody laughing)
Colin: "You know, I mean that's fine but err, you know, every two years The Doors are discovered again, when, you know, the time could be spent better by the record company and the public discovering new bands as well, and err... it's an easy option for record companies in a recession."
Ed: "They don't have to invest in new talent, you know."
Interviewer: "All the time new talents, no?"
Thom: "Yes but..."
Interviewer: "There are too many records, I think, nowadays..."
Thom: "Yeah, but um... they, they don't invest, erm, in talent umm... any, any foresight... they don’t umm... a band has to be given time to develop, to learn, you know, how to do it and things..."
Colin: "Like us! (laughs)"
Thom: "Exactly. Erm and... what happens is that record companies sign bands, give them loads and loads of money, and then if they don't have a hit straight away then they... throw them off."
Interviewer: "I'll translate..."
Thom: "Ok, yeah, yeah..."
Interviewer: "...in short what you said. [HEB]Um, I asked them about the situation of pop music, because I know they have a somewhat bad opinion about it and that's... [ENG] Erm, what is your, pardon... Can you introduce yourself, for I don’t know the faces."
Colin: "Yeah... uh, I'm Colin, I'm the bass player."
Interviewer: "[HEB] Colin! The bass player of the band, said that he used to work in a record store, and people keep buying The Doors albums, and every year they release a new record of The Doors, and the record companies don't really invest in new things, but in things that would sell, and apart from that, they don’t give a chance for the bands to develop and instead they keep demanding from them immediate hits, and if it's not a hit, so they just kick them out. [ENG] But you are OK, even though your first two... your first EP didn't sell well..."
(everybody laughing)
Colin: "Well, it sold... it would... if we would have been on an independent label in England it would have been, like, top 10 in the independent chart... but it didn't sell well 'cause we were on a major label and in the commercial chart we didn't do so well..."
Interviewer: "I'm talking about Drill, not about 'Creep', because in Israel everybody thought that 'Creep' was your first..."
Thom: "Yeah, a lot of people did... (laughing)"
Interviewer: "There are songs that were on the EPs or the singles that didn't, err, come to the album. Like err, I like the song 'Inside My Head' very much."
Thom: "Mmhh-Hmmm."
Colin: "Alright!"
Interviewer: "Why didn't you put it on the album?"
Thom: "Errmm..."
Interviewer: "Hard question?"
Thom: "Yeah! It is!"
Interviewer: "Why?"
Thom: "We were very unhappy with the way it ended up, actually. Erm, we weren’t happy about the way it ended up on tape. Erm... pfff..."
Phil: "Didn't really sound like us!"
Thom: "Yeah, it..."
Phil: "It was us trying, in a way, trying to sound like something else, which never works."
Interviewer: "Like who?"
Thom: "Erm, pffff... (giggling)"
Jonny: "It didn't fit with the rest of the album."
['Inside My Head' starts playing in the background]
Thom: "But erm, it's a good track, it sounded right."
Jonny: "Great guitar solo."
Colin: "Very claustrophobic."
Thom: "Great words."
Interviewer: "[HEB] I asked them about songs that didn't make it to the album, like this song that I really like, and they say they don't like it, and that they were trying to sound like another band so that's why they decided to leave it out. We'll listen to some of it anyway... [ENG] we'll hear only...a bit of it, ok?"
Ed: (laughs)
Colin: "Yeah, wow."
Interviewer: "[HEB] And I want to remind you, if anyone wants to ask Radiohead something... [gives number] you also might win a ticket to their concert!"
['Inside My Head' is playing]
Interviewer: "'Inside My Head'. Was it a different band? Because on the phone you said you had to change it no?"
Thom: "Oh no no! Same band! Us in a different style... us doing a Kingmaker impersonation. This too is about record companies."
Interviewer: "All your songs are about record companies?! (laughing) About the meaning of this song, 'Inside Your Head', I... I know that Thom, the singer, is the writer of the lyrics, no?"
Thom: "Yeah."
Interviewer: "Are you doing any, err, meeting about the meaning of the songs? Do all the band agree to sing, to play err..."
Thom: "Simply I have full control (laughs)"
Interviewer: "Dictator, you mean?"
Colin: "Uuuum... yes!" (Laughter in the background)
Interviewer: "So err, you don't do it, you don't have any talking about the songs..."
Colin: "If Thom... if Thom sings something that we all think is spectacularly naff, then we'll just fool around laughing for a while, and he'll get the message..."
Thom: "Yeah."
(laughter)
Interviewer: "[HEB] I asked them if all the songs are really coming from Thom's head, which is the singer and writer, or that there's some sort of consulting between them about the songs... so, no, he's the main controller, he decides how it's going to be and they just have to agree with him, unless it's a really bad song and then they just laugh at him. [ENG] Let's hear another new song. 'Banana Co.', what's that?"
Thom: "uh... - oops! - This... well the lyrics were, erm, written at three o'clock in the morning when I was blind drunk. Erm, and it was... I'd just been watching something on the news, about the closure of all the coal pits in Britain, like how the government has decided to close the coal pits, and thousands and thousands of people are out of work. So it's about that... but in a drunken state... (laughs)"
Interviewer: "[HEB] We will listen now to a new song called - 'Banana Company'! Which was written in a drunken state, in the morning, and it was written in response to the fact that the English government is closing mines, and people have no place to work."
['Banana Co.' (acoustic version) is played]
Interviewer: "Very nice song!"
Thom: "Thank you!"
Interviewer: "And while it was playing you told me that it was written..."
Thom: "Erm it's... the title comes from, erm, the, uh... comes from a, uh, Gabriel Garcia Marquez book, One Hundred Years of Solitude."
Interviewer: "[HEB] The title of he song comes from One Hundred Years of Solitude, of a... [ENG] which we all read!
Thom: "It's all art..."
Interviewer: "ok...what kind of music do you feel that you express yourself more easily, this kind, softer, or the heavy sound of guitars?
Thom: "the thing is, um, for me personally I think, something like banana co is um...they actually become very easy to write those songs, so...um...they do sound good but I think...y...you know, I think we...we express ourselves best when we are constantly getting new ideas and new sounds, so, you know we couldn't do a whole album with slow songs, we would just get bored.
Interviewer: "maybe your third album ????
Colin: "yeah, Neil young, the acoustic album...
Interviewer: "[HEB] I asked him where...where they feel they express themselves better- in those quiet songs or in the wilder parts, and he said that these songs might be easier to sing, to create, but he feels better in the songs with the full band. and now! We'll hear a surprise- the song Creep...on no, before that, let's hear the first person who called- Eyal hello!
Eyal: "[HEB] Hello.
??: "his name is Eyal?
Interviewer: "yes. [HEB] you know English?
Eyal: " [HEB] yes.
Interviewer: "[HEB] so, say something in English! How do you say- a chair?
Eyal: " [HEB] a chair? [ENG] chair.
Interviewer: "[HEB] OK! talk to them.
Eyal: " um, yeah hi! RH: Hello!
Eyal: " I was wondering, when you guys formed your band, and when did you like, make your breaktrough, was it with creep or before that?
??: "well, um, we actually err...
Interviewer: "[HEB] he was asking when they have formed the band, and when they broke through with creep.
Ed: "we actually formed the band at school, way way way back in the 80's. and uh... long time ago, and we all um, we all went off to college, um, except for Jonny. Cause he's very young. (everybody laughing)
??: "he's the baby of the band
Ed: "and, we, basically we used to come back each holiday, and like, the only people we knew or were friends with were with each other, so we used to meet, and have a drink and talk about this and it was really only about a year or two years ago we started taking it really seriously.
Eyal: " did you think you would make it and like, be popular?
Thom: "errr...I think once...
Eyal: " or did you think like, you're just a band you know, playing music together and that's that. Were you aiming to get popular and everything?
Colin: "yeah, um, we had to want to be successful and be popular or else we wouldn't have carried on wanting to do it for like, seven years...you know one we were at school.
Thom: "it has to be obsessive.
Interviewer: "[Heb] just a sec Eyal let me translate. Mainly what they said was...oh do you want to translate?
Eyal: " [HEB] no that's OK...
Interviewer: "[HEB] so, they said there are actually a band since school years along long time go, except for one of them which is younger and he started sucking on his thumb in the studio here which you didn't see. And to your question, if they were hoping to be successful, they replied that of course they did, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it for like, seven years. And only two years... (ENG) only two years you are Radiohead, right? Before that you...there were other names..
??: "loads of names... (everybody laughing)
Interviewer: "for example...
??: "we had loads of names...
Interviewer: "The Beatles!
??: "loads of names but no gigs or practices...just name changes basically.
??: "no instruments...
Thom: "it was something to talk about in the pub...while we were drinking...
Interviewer: "and you were in another techno band no?
Thom: "yes. (everyone laghing)...
Colin: "the skeletons are coming out now...
Thom: "I'll have you know I have since signed a contract but um... (?)
??: "they got rid of you...
Interviewer: "(HEB) Thom was in a techno band...(while everyone are laughing in the background...) (ENG) nowadays you don't like techno very much...
Thom: "I...I'm...I...if I had the money to go on and buy a computer and stuff I'd probably like it again but...um...the techno I hear I don't understand and don't like. And you know it ???, that when it started out I used to love it...but...
Interviewer: "What about groups like "Jesus Jones " or others? That try to combine the techno with the rock music.
Thom: "When they started, they were the best band in Britain, definitely...Um, with their first single and, by the third single they were the worst...because they didn't do anything different. It was very very boring.
Interviewer: "Um, get me Jesus Jones on the phone!... [HEB] Ok, I asked him, him- Thom, about the techno band he used to be involved in, in the past, and he said that he was actually in a techno band, but today he doesn't like it, and that if he had a computer he would probably like it again. I asked him about bands like " Jesus Jones " that combine techno and rock, and he said that they were great when they started but by their third single they became the worse band in England. Eyal, is there Anything else you would like to ask?
Eyal: " yes.
Interviewer: "(ENG) Eyal, again.
Eyal: " um, I was wondering who you guys are inspired by, like what bands?
Colin: "Well, if you would listen to the rest of this program you'll hear that we'll play some of our fave rave songs...um ???? from the ??? 80's so it' very diverse, we've all got very different taste in music.
Interviewer: "we've got only 29 second...erm minutes now...
??: "OH NO!
Interviewer: "(HEB) so Eyal, leave your details please with Ziv Tal (the producer) and you'll win to tickets to their concerts. And thanks to the rest of the listeners who called and we didn't get the chance to talk to them, since the time is short and there are a lot of things to do! OK Eyal!
Eyal: " Thank you!
Interviewer: "goodbye. Everyone: Bye Bye!!
Interviewer: "he got two tickets for the show free so... Everyone: oh! We'll see him there...
Interviewer: "and now we'll hear, from the show- Creep, live. First time on the Israeli radio... Everyone: Oh! Oh... [after the song]
Interviewer: "[HEB] Creep live, from the concert two weeks ago. [ENG] Thom how do you feel when you expose yourself like this...the songs are so personal and...people...I don't know if people really listen to the words but...
Thom: "I think they do! Um, to play that song live is...really really exhilarating, cause every time um, it sounds a bit ???...but every time I sing it I still get this amazing sensation that...cause I remember how I felt when I wrote the song. And then I'm singing it to people and they are sort of picking up on it...and...it's just such a thrill to do that. You know, only if we've only ever done it once ever, it's worth it just for that.
Interviewer: "[HEB] I asked him how he feels about such an exposure in his songs, and he said that really, every time he sings that song in a performance he remembers the same feeling that he had when he wrote the song, and he thinks the audience feels it too and that very exciting for him. [ENG] and all the audience are waiting for the guitar break no? it's still surprising them?
??: "probably it surprises them that...?????????
Interviewer: "OK! so we move to...you chose a few songs...by other artists. (yeah...)
Interviewer: "and the first is very sad...
Colin: "yeah! The first song is Tim Buckley and it's really good, and he recorded the session in the BBC Radio 1, and ????????? on a Saturday night, and you should listen to it, it sounds really like ?????? playing, but it's like, it's really nice feel, and it's just a really nice song.
Interviewer: "[HEB] from what I could figure out, he was saying that it's a Tim Buckley song that was recorded at the John Peel sessions at the BBC, and it's a really nice song and it has a beautiful atmosphere. It's called- "Sing a Song for you" [ENG] it wasn't released on any albums...
Thom: "I've never found it anywhere else um...yeah...
Interviewer: "[HEB] It's a song that appears only in this version we'll listen to right now. [ENG] April '69! [Song is played]
Interviewer: "[HEB] That was lovely. [ENG] great song! (hmm, yeah)
Interviewer: "and I saw Thom singing with Tim Buckley...
Thom: "oh yeah...
Interviewer: "the question is, are you singing any covers on your show?
??: "We'll see! (laughing) depends on the...uh...how it goes...
??: "we got one, a surprise one but, we'll see!
Interviewer: "by the time you get to Phoenix or something?
Colin: "It's a country song because we're big fans of country music!
Ed: "Glen Campbell song...
Interviewer: "Which one?
Ed: "Rhinestone Cowboy...which is a...
Thom: "we said it now! I'll have to learn the words now!
Interviewer: "What is your opinion about the...all the covers nowadays? Nobody is writing new songs...
Thom: "I...it's just funny really, ??? being a problem it's just hilarious...
Phil: "like we were saying earlier, the companies are really...got confidence in artists that are dead, records that are dead, and now, even new bands are just using dead artists songs...
Thom: "and there we are tape playing Tim Buckley, who's dead of course.
Interviewer: "and did anybody cover your song, yet?
Thom: "lots of people are covering Creep!!
Interviewer: "no I ,mean really, recorded and...
??: "not recorded but...
Interviewer: "[HEB] I asked them following this beautiful song, that I saw Thom singing in the studio, about covers in this tour and they said that they might cover one Glen Campbell song, and that they really like country music and that's why they'll cover it. I asked them about the covers phenomena, and they said it's like they said earlier about pop music being dead and bands that are actually being controlled by the record companies and the recycling of successful songs over and over again... [ENG] OK! the next one...different feeling!
Ed: "Yes. Well, this is um, another Oxford band this is Ride and we played them at football about 8 weeks ago, and they beat us 17-1.
Interviewer: "Really?? (everyone laugh)
Interviewer: "Football? American Football?
Ed: "no no, soccer, soccer. And um...
??: "they're very good!
Ed: "and we're very sad...
Interviewer: "And what about the band we didn't hear about them last...
Ed: "Well they're kind of...they were touring a lot last year and...you know...they've had a few problems but um...
Interviewer: "OK, but I play the short version ok?
Ed: "oh yeah...
Interviewer: "[HEB] We will now listen to "Ride" which are also from Oxford, the band played football against them and lost miserably! 17-1...Ride! (After the song) GZ:[HEB] Ride with "leave them all behind", this was the choice of ummmmm.......
Ed: "It was the choice of Ed! I'm the guitari...I'm A guitarist! There are three here...
Interviewer: "[HEB] Ed is one of the guitarists... [ENG] and next choice of...
Jonny: "Of me, I'm Jonny. Um, and it's a...
Interviewer: "You are the child, yes?
Jonny: "Sorry?
Interviewer: "The child...
Jonny: "I'm the baby of the band yeah...
Colin: "He's my brother!
Jonny: "Um, and it's a Fall song. And I jut really admire The Fall for just using other instruments other than guitars and drums as, a lot of ????? and they use violin as well in this album and it's...
Interviewer: "and it's the only band you chose that sold less records than you! (everyone laughing)
Colin: "And they're still going!
Interviewer: "for a hundred of years... [HEB] OK he chose "The fall" and he likes about them that they use all sorts of unconventional instruments and not just guitars, and we joked about the fact that the Fall don't sell many records even though they exist for a very long time. This is called "Chicago Now". (after the song)
Interviewer: "Ok we have to cut "The Fall" because the show ends at 7... and we have another choice. [ENG] Next one please!
Phil: "Yeah well, I'm sure everybody must be manic- depressives by now, just to reinforce that opinion, here's a song by Joy Division. This song is called "Disorder"...um...They're the kings of... (the whole time Phil speaks there are giggles in the background)
Interviewer: "What's so funny?!
Ed: "The kings of glum.
??: "The kings of glum!
Thom: "they are very unhappy now aren't they, really?
Phil: "but! Brilliant band!
??: "yeah...
Interviewer: "OK we...in order to stay in this very cheerful atmosphere we will listen to Joy Division...Disorder... (Someone is giggling again)
Interviewer: "The guys here think it's funny! (After the song)
Interviewer: "Joy Division, the choice of Phil, the drummer of the band. (The end of the song is playing)
??: "Poor Fella!
Ed: "Yeah, pass and smog it on quickly...
??: "poor chap really...
Interviewer: "I noticed that you didn't choose any Israeli songs... (everyone starts mumbling "Errr, Um...No..Well...it's not...)
Interviewer: "OK! we're coming to the end of the umm...my short program) (everyone together): Awwwwwwwwww
Interviewer: "(laughing) Ok, I want to thank you that you came here.
Thom: "Thank you! It was fun...
Interviewer: "We'll meet tomorrow at the "Roxanne". And the day after. And in the 3rd the show will be broadcasted live.
Ed: "Great. On Saturday.
Interviewer: "OK, so be good then. (They laugh)
Interviewer: "Radiohead, thank you very much! And we'll hear another of you live show before two weeks. Ripcord. Do you want to say anything about this one?
??: "Yeah...Um, it's quite a good version of it. It was recorded when we played the ??? the TNC, in London.
Interviewer: "TNC is...
??: "??? country
Interviewer: "Where is it, we don't know...
??: "Oh, sorry, sorry sorry...
Interviewer: "[HEB] So this is from the concert two weeks ago in London and it's called Ripcord, and we'll finish with that. (Thanks technicians) Well See you tomorrow in Roxanne in RADIOHEAD'S concert!!! (now they air a hilarious promo for the broadcasting of the show on Saturday...)